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Autism rights movement was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
October 3, 2005	Peer review	Reviewed
March 20, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
September 29, 2014	Good article nominee	Not listed

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Ongoing dispute in the Wikipedia page on Autism, attentions needed.

I recently went through the current version of the Wikipedia article on Autism , and I found that this article is NOT representing the reality or encyclopedic wholeness. The huge, verbose, highly technical article is biased towards medical model of disability, medical genetics, and nearly zero information regarding the anthropology, evolution, neurodiversity, accommodation, accessibility, Augmentative and alternative communications, and all that actually helps wellbeing of Autistic people. The page boldly focuses on controversial methods such as ABA, such as EIBI (Early intensive behavioral interventions), DTT (discrete trial training) etc. without any mention of the concerns or criticisms against them. I entered the talk page, but it has been turned literally into a warzone, where any dissenting viewpoint is being silenced in name of "global and unanimous scientific consensus" which is simply wrong. It is mostly a view held by biomedical and pharmaceutical majority. But outside of that, opposing viewpoints do exist in actual Autistic populations (who have the lived experience), anthropology, sociology, psychology, etc. I added an "unbalanced" tag for reader information (I did not speak for complete erasure of controversial viewpoints, just needed the reader to know that there are other views), however the "unbalanced" tag was soon reverted.

It is not possible for me to daily attend and post arguments and counter-arguments. I have to acknowledge that, if this kind of silencing continues, this time Wikipedia literally failed as an encyclopedia, as well it failed at public health and education welfare perspective.

Highly disappointed.

RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 05:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's very very tough for you. Yes, Wiki Autism page is so unbalanced and predominantly medical model based. it is okay to include information about medical model, and teaching both biomedical model + neurodiversity approaches would be better in courses, but not that unbalanced like the wiki page. Also, the page misrepresents neurodiversity/autism rights perspective. the sentence "autistic people may be diagnosed with a disability of some sort, but that disability may be rooted in the systemic structures of a society rather than in the person" is not true. Autism rights movement and neurodiversity approaches believe that disability arises from *both* societal barriers/stigma/double empathy etc and inherent characteristics of autistic people. that seems like a way to present autism rights/ND approaches so that its easier to counter-argue against when *very very very very very very few* people in autism rights movement hold this view.

While I am not a big fan of impact factor, the two most influential autism journals are now very neurodiversity affirming - Autism and Autism in Adulthood. Many scientists are now adopting neurodiversity approaches in their work or combination of neurodiversity and biomedical approaches, so predominant medical model orientation is no longer a "global and unanimous scientific consensus", given the impact of Autism and Autism in Adulthood journals. 219.77.238.19 (talk) 02:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Warning It seems like you are engaging in Canvassing and campaigning. Such behavior is not allowed and is considered disruptive. While informing other editors of an ongoing discussion is acceptable, the notices must be neutral and concise. Please see WP:APPNOTE on further information on how to send an appropriate notice. Kindly, Pinecone23 (talk) 17:41, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Autism rights vs transgender rights

There was a dispute between a person with autism and a transgender person. The people in charge decided to side with the transgender person. I think this could be relevant to this article. This may be a case where an autistic person was denied reasonable accommodations for their condition, in order to placate the transgender person. I'm not sure if there was a way that both parties could have been satisfied.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cvgk0w726w1o

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/01/28/second-teenage-footballer-banned-transgender-opponents-men/

A Plumbing I Will Go (talk) 02:10, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unless there is reliable, informed expert analysis that reinforces the idea that autistic individuals are being "denied reasonable accommodations" in such circumstances, this claim is amateur speculation and conjecture and would not meet the requirements of verifiability for inclusion. Importantly, The Daily Telegraph is not considered reliable for reporting on transgender topics. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 10:10, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]