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Remove the anthem?

Would it be nessecary for the anthem to be removed unless free syria and northwestern syria use the same anthem? - WinterJunpei :3 12:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think this is currently warranted to remove it, until further changes are announced. There could be a "former" tag put under it SunnyandBunny 21 (talk) 15:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Winterjunpei Actually this anthem serves as the Syrian national anthem from 1938, independently from what status the country has. It is very unlikely to change, at least not the melody. Greek Rebel (talk) 18:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Syrian Football Association is using the song Mawtini as a provisional anthem, as from this footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu0w1Xt_LF8 RossoSPC (talk) 02:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new national anthem of Syria is في سبيل المجد والأوطان (for sake of glory and nations) by Syrian ambassador and poet Omar Abu Risha Lin Kuei Warriors (talk) 17:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the claims on Hatay province as unclear if the new government still supports them

In the map it still shows Syrian claims on the Hatay province of Türkiye. It's unclear if the transitional government still claims Hatay, so until they make a formal statement best to remove. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to get things the wrong way around, a change in policy should be sourced. CMD (talk) 07:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PrecariousWorlds Until transitional govt formally opposes it maintain. Mithilanchalputra (Talk) 09:39, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think there is enough evidence yet to claim that the new government is not claiming Hatay however a government website is using a logo without the Hatay province of Türkiye.

http://www.moi.gov.sy/images/logo.png

This could be interpreted as an intention to drop the claims in the upcoming constitution. ElementLover (talk) 08:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new Syrian government has not reiterated any territorial claim over Hatay. Until they do so (if ever), Wikipedia should reflect current realities rather than outdated historical positions. There is no recent declaration or policy statement from Syria’s leadership supporting the Hatay claim, making it inaccurate to present it as an active territorial dispute. Therefore, I propose removing this claim unless there is verifiable, up-to-date evidence to support its inclusion. Plus, there is a paragraph regarding the “international disputes”. Mentioning it there should be sufficient. We should also change the map according to that new reality. E3.akpinar (talk) 17:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They do not have to mention their claims on Hatay for us to include them. Every new state inherits everything from its predecessor state(s) and unless they renounce their claims on that province then it should be included Abo Yemen ✉ 18:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article must reflect what we know based on verifiable information, not assumptions. Assuming the new government automatically inherits all claims from the previous regime without solid evidence feels more like speculation than fact. If there’s no recent statement or policy confirming the claim, it seems misleading to present it as an active dispute on par with the Golan occupation. States may technically inherit claims, but in practice the policies and priorities change. Especially after a major shift in leadership like this. Unless there’s up-to-date evidence to support it, keeping the claim feels biased and doesn’t align with Wikipedia’s goal of neutrality. As I said, the paragraph regarding the internaional disputes mention it. It gives an insight for that claim and there is no need to keep it on the top page. E3.akpinar (talk) 19:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Presumptuous

Isn't this article presumptuous calling it "Syrian Arab Republic" when they're essentially in some sort of anarchy with many factions saying they're in charge? 174.249.85.73 (talk) 21:48, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would be presumptuous to assume the name has changed, not that it is what it has been for decades. CMD (talk) 04:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official resolutions issued by the prime minister's office still use the name "Syrian Arab Republic" - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1169592881391571&set=a.447983706885829 - therefore it is safe to conclude that that remains the official long form name of the state Dn9ahx (talk) 08:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invasion of Palestine

The statement "The Invasion purpose was to prevent the establishment of the State of Israel." is neither true nor is it upheld by the source given, which only states "The humiliating failure of the Arab intervention in Palestine against the newly created State of Israel in May 1948 brought serious discredit to the governments of the Arab countries involved, but nowhere more than in Syria."

Syria was part of the Arab League and their official statement was that they were intervening in Palestine because of the lawlessness there and the ethnic cleansing: "The recent disturbances in Palestine further constitute a serious and direct threat to peace and security within the territories of the Arab States themselves. For these reasons, and considering that the security of Palestine is a sacred trust for them, and out of anxiousness to check the further deterioration of the prevailing conditions and to prevent the spread of disorder and lawlessness into the neighbouring Arab lands, and in order to fill the vacuum created by the termination of the Mandate and the failure to replace it by any legally constituted authority, the Arab Governments find themselves compelled to intervene for the sole purpose of restoring peace and security and establishing law and order in Palestine." (https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cablegram_from_the_Secretary-General_of_the_League_of_Arab_States_to_the_Secretary-General_of_the_United_Nations) Mcdruid (talk) 04:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The ethnic composition of Syria is mixed as referenced on the same Wikipedia page, wherein Arabs comprise the majority but Kurds and Turkmens comprise a significant percentage of the total population. Accordingly, the official name of the country should be inclusive as the ‘Republic of Syria,’not ‘Syrian Arab Republic.’ The Syrian Arab Republic name suggests that the country is comprised of Syrian Arabs and excludes other minorities such as Syrian Kurds. Ahmadsfelo (talk) 12:47, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Skitash (talk) 14:28, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change Syrian Arab Republic to Republic of Syria Ahmadsfelo (talk) 18:47, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian Arab Republic is the official name of the country.[1] "Republic of Syria" is WP:OR. Skitash (talk) 19:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official resolutions issued by the prime minister's office still use the name "Syrian Arab Republic" - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1169592881391571&set=a.447983706885829 - therefore it is safe to conclude that this remains the official long form name of the state Dn9ahx (talk) 08:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

White flag

At the most recent meetings of the transitional government and media appearances by its leaders, only the Independence Flag appears to be used. While there is evidence of use of the white flag before the fall of Assad and at ther first meeting of the transitional government, is there any further evidence that is is being used after that first meeting? - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1167816194902573&set=pb.100050226110792.-2207520000 (16 December) - https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=984180353739970&set=pcb.984180407073298 (18 Decmber) - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=984504190374253&set=pcb.984504370374235 (19 December) - Dn9ahx (talk) 10:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are we jumping to conclusions based the use of this flag at one meeting? If so, should we hide it from the infobox until its status and use becomes more clear? Dn9ahx (talk) 20:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve put this change into effect as there were no objections Dn9ahx (talk) 11:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it was used later during bashir's speech on tv after the meeting, and earlier it was used in julani's cnn interview; it probably may be removed if they dont use it anymore tho Opostylov (talk) 13:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can remove the white flag, but it can remain on Flag of Syria article as "temporarily used". Beshogur (talk) 13:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another meeting today (22 Dec) with only the Independence Flag - https://x.com/SanaAjel/status/1870815164427042883 Dn9ahx (talk) 13:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meeting with Jordanian diplomats today with only the Independence Flag - https://x.com/SanaAjel/status/1871141176163889411 Dn9ahx (talk) 10:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A second meeting today, with a delegation from Qatar , with only the independence flag again - https://x.com/SanaAjel/status/1871151757100823000 Dn9ahx (talk) 11:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like another user has removed it Dn9ahx (talk) 15:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

seems like it's still used

https://youtube/SFQ2MvHQrsQ?si=6B2kZYZxQjHTuEbA Berniesandals (talk) 13:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Independence flag is the only flag used at official diplomatic events - https://x.com/SanaAjel/status/1872984181745303751 - https://x.com/SanaAjel/status/1872950672683147498 - https://x.com/SanaAjel/status/1872266335725740237 - The Independence flag is the only flag depicted by international sports governing bodies which have updated the flag they use to represent Syria - https://olympics.com/ioc/syrian-arab-republic - https://www.ihf.info/member-federations/syrian-arab-republic/5873 - The current consensus, where the Independence Flag is shown in the infobox and a "tawhid" flag shown in the body of the article accurately describes the situation on the ground. Dn9ahx (talk) 14:05, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More meetings and diplomatic engagements over the past few days. Only the Independence Flag is being used - https://x.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1874786498936967223 - https://mfa.gov.ua/news/andrij-sibiga-ta-ahmad-ash-sharaa-obgovorili-v-damasku-shlyahi-vidnovlennya-dvostoronnih-vidnosin-mizh-ukrayinoyu-ta-siriyeyu - https://sanasyria.org/en/?p=343351 - https://sanasyria.org/en/?p=343295 - Dn9ahx (talk) 13:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's too much documentation for a flag that is no longer on the infobox Abo Yemen ✉ 14:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Change flag (de facto) to just the flag. It is done. 37.220.118.103 (talk) 16:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aintabli (talk) 16:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war at Syria Template

there are two editors without any source are playing with the number of Turkmen in Syria, making an absurd edit that 17% of Syrians are Turkmen. can someone revert that unsourced edit. Alhanuty (talk) 17:14, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General Command

@Abo Yemen: the General Command seems to rule the country. He appoints the ministers. Panam2014 (talk) 00:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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169.224.4.173 (talk) 05:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Religion ^[1]87%Islam 74% Sunni Islam 13% Alawite,Ismaili and Shia Christian 10% (includes Orthodox,Uniate,Eastern Catholic and Nestorian Druze 3%

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Abo Yemen ✉ 05:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ [2]"Syria: People and society". The World Factbook. CIA. 10 May 2022. Archived from the original on 3 February 2021. Retrieved 30 December 2021

Include Ahmed al-Sharaa as de facto leader of Syria

France 24: Syria's de facto new leader Ahmed al-Sharaa
MSN: Ahmad Al Shara, centre, Syria's de facto leader
[2]: Syria’s de facto new leader Ahmed al-Sharaa
AJ: Syria’s new leader, Ahmed al-Sharaa

This is the ones I found quickly. He's the one meeting foreign envoys as well. Beshogur (talk) 13:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is enough evidence to list him as "acting president". However, he could be listed as "de facto Leader", "Leader", "acting head of state", "de facto head of state" etc. I think further discussion or a poll to establish a consensus is in order. Dn9ahx (talk) 13:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Syria has no constitution right now. Who says we need a president to add him to the infobox? RS describe him as de facto leader. Beshogur (talk) 14:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. We could add him to the infobox as “de facto leader” Dn9ahx (talk) 16:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sounds good Abo Yemen ✉ 07:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I will put that into effect Dn9ahx (talk) 10:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also suggest putting his title in the infobox as Emir of Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, rather than the more vague "leader", since that is the position that makes him the most powerful man in Syria de facto. This is similar to how, for communist-led countries like Vietnam, the General Secretary is listed as the first position in the infobox. Since, like with al-Sharaa, this is the position that gives its holder the de facto supreme power even if they may not be the head of state or government de jure - e.g. Tô Lâm. 79.104.50.145 (talk) 15:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Except he has not been officially defined as Syria's leader at all. We need to wait for official sourcing on this. Ecpiandy (talk) 02:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christianity

Christianity is drastically lower than it really is, it is still 10% of the population Mauzer's random BS (talk) 05:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: No reliable source given + we already have 2 sources agreeing on the 2.5% figure

[3] says "While accurate numbers are hard to come by, their population is believed to have shrunk to about 2.5% from 10%." Abo Yemen ✉ 07:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

There's some grammatical errors at the end of the religions paragraph in the demographics section. "and 3.84% are Syrian are Christians at 2020.[7]" Zzabka (talk) 03:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 14:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian Arab Republic

Are we still calling it that? The new government will most definitely not be using that name. Why don't we put the name as "Syria" and wait and see? Ecpiandy (talk) 03:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because we have primary evidence the new government continues to use that name. CMD (talk) 03:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The newly formed transitional government are still using “Syrian Arab Republic” as the official long form name of the state on legal documents such as this one issued by the prime minister’s office- https://x.com/SanaAjel/status/1871896791580573972 Dn9ahx (talk) 12:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Free Republic of Syria 94.191.136.235 (talk) 18:03, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ba'athist SAF still linked in military section

there is a new SAF article that is meant for the new transitional government syria link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Armed_Forces LeonVolturno (talk) 19:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Heritage Foundation

We should stop using the Heritage Foundation as a source in this article. They have announced plans to use their web technology to identify and deanonymize Wikipedia users. We currently link to them twice in this article, putting editors at direct risk of being doxxed. 166.205.97.61 (talk) 17:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is an ongoing discussion about it. M.Bitton (talk) 17:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Change anthem please.

It is still showing the old anthem. Please change it as soon as possible.

Best Regards 2A02:B98:4731:2AD0:DDEC:4948:5FEB:1098 (talk) 08:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Abo Yemen ✉ 09:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute on "Suriyā" and "Suriyah": Should we use both or just Suriyah?

Pinging @Quetstar because they claim that there is no usage of "Suriyā".

Both Suriyā and Suriyah are used in official names, including the arabs. Honestly, the arabs use "Suriyā" rather than "Suriyah". Rather than solving editing disputes, like I am doing right here, they have reverted my edit and have claimed that that name is nonexistent and surprisingly did not remove the second variant of "Syria". "اَلْجُمْهُورِيَّةُ ٱلْعَرَبِيَّةُ ٱلْسُوْرِيَّة" is the country's official name in arabic with "Suriyah", and "اَلْجُمْهُورِيَّةُ ٱلْعَرَبِيَّةُ ٱلْسُورِيَا" is the official name of the country, but with "Suriyā". If you check the arabic version of the syrian article it def and clearly has usage of "Suriyā". If you want evidence that Suriyā is used, click [4].

[4] So should both be used or just Suriyah be used? Let's reach a consensus. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:31, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While i know they are two ways to write the word "Syria" in Arabic, there is only one official way to write the country's official name, the Syrian Arab Republic, and that's the one with "Suriyyah". Normally, Wikipedia writes the official name exactly how a country's government does. The Syrian govt only uses "Suriyyah" when writing the country's official name, so the variant with "Suriyā" is incorrect. Quetstar (talk) 00:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pktlaurence had the same problem as you. They claimed the same thing, no usage of "Suriyā". Besides if it were to be wrong how come it wasnt reverted till now? 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:56, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because no one dared to check if it was correct. Also, there is no need for consensus, since the rule is to write the official name of a country the way its government does. I will also re-state that while they are two correct ways to write "Syria" in Arabic, there's only one correct way to write its official name in that language. Quetstar (talk) 01:02, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a need of consensus, as this is pretty controversial. Also the government has indeed used Suriyā, but they rarely use it. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 01:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no controversy here. What i did was to correct the writing of the official name to the one that the government uses, that being "اَلْجُمْهُورِيَّةُ ٱلْعَرَبِيَّةُ ٱلْسُوْرِيَّة". I left everything else intact, including the two correct ways of writing "Syria" in Arabic. Per WP:BURDEN, the burden to demonstrate otherwise is on you due to your restoration of the incorrect variant. It is not on the community to decide or prove it. Quetstar (talk) 02:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are kinda correct and incorrect here, as I didnt say that you removed "Suriya", and also I am sorry for not providing a source, Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that you're quite correct here.... (Im not correct either on the suriya issue)

If you go to the syrian govt website, (click the link that says [1]).

[5]

you'll see that the Official english name for syria is the "Syrian Arabic Rebublic". But in wikipedia we use "Syrian Arab Republic", which is incorrect but we only use it because the syrian govt misspelled it. This shows evidence that we don't always use 100% official names.

And yes, there is controversy here. Pretty much every edit here is controversial. Edits to this article are contentious/controversial because:

It's Extended-protected
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Has 1RR in effect, which is why i haven't reverted my edit yet.

I did not expect a reply because you did not respond for over an hour, and since you technically started this, please Drop the stick. It's not the end of the world, and let this debate die a natural death. Because of this, I will no longer reply to this topic. Thank you. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 03:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

anyway lets let the community decide. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:58, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] [2]"Syria: People and society". The World Factbook. CIA. 10 May 2022. Archived from the original on 3 February 2021. Retrieved 30 December 2021

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